![]() ![]() So I want to get to the book, but let’s talk about your background in terms of how you got to this, and I do want to talk a lot about the digital elements of this. ![]() So I’m very interested in what’s going on in intelligence, and obviously it’s been in the news quite a lot this week especially. I don’t know if you know this I went to the Foreign Service School at Georgetown and I desperately wanted to be in the CIA, but it didn’t work out for me that way. General Hayden, welcome to Recode Decode. He’s also the author of a new book, which is fantastic, called “ The Assault on Intelligence: American National Security in the Age of Lies. Air Force four-star general and the former director of the National Security Agency. Today in the red chair is Michael Hayden, a retired U.S. You may know me as the director of the National Insecurity Agency, but in my spare time I talk tech, and you’re listening to Recode Decode from the Vox Media podcast network. Hi, I’m Kara Swisher, editor at large at Recode. If you like this, be sure to subscribe to Recode Decode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pocket Casts, Overcast or wherever you listen to podcasts. Below, we’ve also provided a lightly edited complete transcript of their conversation. You can read a write-up of the interview here or listen to the whole thing in the audio player above. ![]()
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